David Goggins - holding down the ultrarunning scene for the brothas.....and what a pretty motherfucker we have here, chiseled 6'1" 195 pounds, Navy Seal, Badwater, on and on. Oh Snap!...what's this? A 3:29:35 in last months LA Marathon? David, is that you?.... a 59.6% AG grading? WTF? What happened? I'm suspect, did you really run at 2:56 Boston? and that 3:08 Las Vegas qualified you? Qualifying for Boston at age 32 by 95 seconds.....tsk tsk....hummm...I don't know....my man...all the Ultra stuff is nonsense in my book, quit hiding in those weak field events and step up to the real game brah.......but know you're going to have to get your weight up if you even think about coming to New York City, that sub 60% AG grading on a flat marathon course in LA ain't gonna cut it my man. You've never cut a time to qualify you for the New York City Marathon - yes, I have some strings I can pull, but I'm sure you can earn your way in, no? Holla back when you're really ready to get down - that's right, I'm talking New York City - if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere - but be forewarned...it runs through Harlem....where you gotta go hard, or go home. For my female readers - I present to you David Goggins, the prettiest motherfucker in running. Have a great day!
Wednesday, March 19, 2008
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His finishing time is not slow because of running ability. It is because he has to deal with a problem during a marathon that you and I have experienced. I would figure he has some lady throw their panties at him about every 50yds during the race. Which would slow me down and I would guess it would slow you down too!!!
Nice body!
But is that is wife? Harumph!
I run for fallen soldiers. Why do you run? It's a damn shame that I am one of the only African American endurance athletes and you are putting me down. Do something possitive for the community. Not that I need to justify myslef to you but I wanted you and your readers to know that on Saturday before the LA marathon, I did a double century in Death Valley. (200 mile Bike Ride) I then drove to LA to PACE a fellow soldier wanted to run a 3:30 ergo the 3:29 that you commented on. By the way the Las Vegas marathon was my first marathon which I did 10 days after running my 1st 100 mile race. (weighing 240) Don't go off my word though, you seem to have enough time on your hands so you can look it up on line as you have everything else. Boston was also another training run. I thought it would be cool to run under 3 hours. So I just went out there and did it. What they don't show you on the results you found is that I ran another 26.2 miles to the start line, both marathons by the way were faster than your 3:05. I guess what I am telling you, is that you shouldn't put people down that you don't fully know, I am an animal and I train everyday the distance that you train UP to do. Don't question me. If you would like to see for yourself I would be happy to join you in New York this year. NO, lets make it a date. The question is will you show up 3 hours before to run to the start line with me? I can't wait to run through Harlem to visit my aunt's and uncles again. I'll let them know I'm coming. By the way, please make sure you can run at least a 2:50 because I don't want al your fans to think less of you. I hope you can back up what you say. I promise I will see you in NY. Please make sure you post this so everyone knows.
I'm sorry I passed over your statement about the "FLAT" courses that I've run. Just take the following into consideration.
HURT 100- 26,000 ft of elevation gain
Leadville 100- (avg elevation 10,200ft) 16,000 ft elevation gain
Plain 100 (SELF SUPPORTED- for those who call me weak)23,000 ft elevation gain
These are just 3 of the 9 100 mile TRAIL runs I did last year. By the way, If finished the year off breaking the course record in Texas by running 203.5 miles in 48 hours. Anymore comments or questions???
I apologize for all the stats, I don't usually speak of myself, I just find this to be so amusing. I did 3 100 mile races in 21 days and I'm WEAK?!?! ELEVATION! You think a marathon anywhere has elevation? Do you think that a hill in a marathon is elevation? If you want elevation in a marathon, try pikes peak. New york is at SEA LEVEL. Is New York your BIG RACE? Sorry to go off but ELEVATION? you are going to talk to me about ELEVATION? I logged over 7500 miles last year in the Mountains and your talking about ELEVATION? HARLEM? Man, get serious, ELEVATION? I'm having fun with you. Did you want to talk more about ELEVATION? I haven't had this much fun in a long time. I love when I'm being questioned. Thanks for making me smile today Brah! Man start training.
For Everyone's Viewing Pleasure!
http://www.ingnycmarathon.org/entrantinfo/elevation.pdf
http://hurthawaii.blogs.com/HURT07RunnerBookletElevationProfile.pdf
These are the elevation charts of the races in question
The NYC marathon and
the HURT 100 mile trail run
my first trail run
please take the time to type these in if you are unable to click and view
ELEVATION?!?
You had me worried for a second about the elevation. Damn! Those first few miles climbing to a whole 280ft is going to be a gut check! It's going to be just as hard as getting to my mailbox. I hope I can keep up. Brah,I see you have Ted Corbitt on your page, I don't understand how you contradict yourself like you do. Why don't you focus on the bigger problems in this world. We have had almost 4,000 troops killed in Iraq so that you are able to run and and post this BS on your site. I can't believe when I look up and find myself fighting for peoples freedom when they are worried so much about how someone looks, or how fast they run. What if I ran a 8 hr marathon, who gives a damn? I'm here in this world to try and make a positive difference. Why don't you stop putting people down and start putting the positive things that African American's are doing. Young kids will look at this for guidence and see a black man putting down another. I want to be clear. I'm not trying to give you my resume or be cocky. I want to clarify to everyone that I'm so amused by this because I run to raise money for fallen soldier's childern to go to college And I'm getting crap for running a 3:29 marathon. I see you have Obama on your website. You know that he is about change in America, why don't you make a change and set the example for our youth? Instead of this crap on your website. I hope you still question my abilities. I try to find the limits to the human soul everyday. NOW I PRESENT TO YOU,,,,,,DAVID GOGGINS
Goggins, I appreciate your comments, just having some sporting fun albeit at your expense & lampooning Ferg Hawke's love-worship-tribute Wedding style video montage of you. This site is read all over the world - heavily in NYC - lots of writers on running check it too - I've introduced you to new fans.
You're quite off the mark in your comments - scanning the blog illustrates that - there's more running and marathoning knowledge here than just about anywhere - and that's 100% accurate for African Americans - however I appreciate you playing along - problem for you is you're in over your head. I am a Californian too - however this is New York City - you dwell in the shallow end of the pool....I run where the best in the world run - and you don't qualify.
4 Facts for you to come to terms with:
1) Your best performance Marathon performance, Boston @ age 32 equates to a 70.96 Age Graded Score. My best marathon performance, NYC @ age 44 equates to a 71.54% Age Rated Score. You are not at my level David (and have never been there at the Marathon). And yes, I almost did not race that day as I was sick as a dog & on 3 flu medications. I only point this fact out to say I'm qualified to speak on performing at the marathon in NYC - I am not speaking out of school.
2) Paul Tergat (other than, Halie Geb, the greatest marathon runner ever) characterized the New York City Marathon course as the most difficult course he's ever ran (Runner's World Interview). Bob Glover, running guru, says for all but elites, the NYC course is 10 minutes slower than a typical road marathon. Please, spare me stories about the rolling hills of Boston - it's not NYC. Paul Tergat & Bob Glover are the very top of credible authorities on characterizing the NYC course.
3) What are you? 34, 35 now?...You have no idea what it takes to be a Master runner, 40+, and train & perform competitively at the marathon distance. I am built similar to you albeit only 5'9" but have a 24 bmi. It's not the same at still racing a marathon - something very different than trotting an ultra (your game).
4) Lastly, you, David Goggins, have never performed at a level where you qualified for entry into the NYC Marathon. Isn't that really kind of the bottom line David and the big elephant in the room? All your ultra based blah blah blah is rather meaningless at the end of the day in light of this fact. You've never attained the standard David to earn entry, what should we conclude from that fact?
1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = Sit Down David Goggins. As I said from the start, you're in over your head.
Yes, I qualified for the NYC Marathon in the NYC Marathon on the same very course of the NYC Marathon. 4 Simple Facts. Now instead of offering speech that amounts to diversion of the point, why don't you just qualify for New York? Seems simple enough, no?
Again, I was sick as a dog in my last marathon - however despite being over a decade older than you, I'm rather sure I can give you an ass kicking on pure straight time @ NYC - and certainly absolutely when Age Graded.
You're a great man - but please, no need to wrap yourself up in the flag. I give you props for your accomplishments on the course and off. The bottom line fact though is you're just not a man who's ever qualified for these streets I run on a daily basis.
I respect everything about you - and I've not spoken opinion here, I've illustrated 4 facts that amount to me being able to challenge you to be better at running the standard, the marathon, - than you've ever been before.
I would think a guy like you can soldier up and deal with it, no? Now applications to the NYC'08 Marathon are being accepted and the lottery for entry in the NYC '08 Marathon is also open, you Goggins can either 1) reach a standard and earn your way in, something you've never been able to do, 2) enter the lottery, cross your fingers, click your heels and make a wish hoping you get picked, or 3) ask me for a favor. Oh, I forget, I'm sure you can play the "military card" and the NYRR are good people - they'll welcome you in the race that way too.
Good luck in your training.
You Lance do not get it. You are a grown man looking on line for a man doing a job to help military familys. I do not care about 26.2 miles. You are Funny,I love how you are your biggest fan. I love all the info about marathons you have. I do 100 mile races. I'm reading your stuff here thinking. This guy is telling me about how sick he was in a marathon, take a SIU (suck it up pill) and run MR hard MAN from Harlem. Your life is about marathons. If you look at my running, I Started running in 2005 when I weighed 280 pounds. I started running to raise money for fallen troops. I run ultramarathons to raise the money. You are an older Man running marathons good for you. You will not find me looking you up on line. And who cares about 60.5% AG grading. Just run man. I will give you some help, to run your 3:00 marathon when you start to hurt run faster take a SIU pill(suck it up pill) you should know that with all your great running background. I step up everyday and do the right things. Once again I run marathons for training. I hear you say when you were my age you did this and that, I don't care,I don't even know who you are. You are a man who runs marathons and goes on line to look up people. Once again great job when you wre younger. I don't care man, I don't train for your 26.2. If I see a marathon I can jump in I will. I did boston just to do boston. You talk about me being over my head. You run marathons an dream about when you were my age. I will be your age one day and when that day comes, I will see a young man like myself and help him.You are a old school black runner I am a new school black run. That is it you run 13.1 and 26.2 good on you for that. I run ultramarathons and do long bike rides. I am not trying to be in your marathon club. If you like I can get you a ticket to the NAACP awards in LA I am the main speaker at that event. That is what I work on giving back to people trying to do good. That event is NOV 8th. The week after your big NY race. Be a role model for other people, get over yourself. You think I am trying to be a great marathon runner I have done 3 marathons in in my 3 years of running. If you like finding Black runners holding it down, Then giving them your resume at least find one that cares. No the goal for me is not NY marathon, it is to raise 1,000,000 dollars for a good cause. I am not at your level you say. You are a older man looking me up on line. You know all about me, Who are you? I forgot you are the older man dreaming of when you were 33 years old. you brought up the NYC marathons "hard" course again. Do you honestly think that that would be a challenge for me? or any other Ultra distance runner? I train with guys that when we go out on an easy day consists of 30 miles with at least 6,000ft of elevation gain. Man I've done a race where I swam 6.2 miles. got out of the water, biked 261, and ran a double marathon, both of my splits are faster than your PR at NY. You mention that being a master runner is so much harder, the average age of an ultra runner is around 45 years old. The man Ferg Hawke you put down, is 48 yrs of age and weights 195. His MASTER time in the 100k is (which is 62.5 miles) is a 6:39. This is faster than your marathon splits. I could give you examples of men this age all day who can kill guys my age, so if you really want to try and stand on the MASTER leg, you might as well sign off. You are in luck though, there is no need to fret about me not being able to qualify for the NYC marathon. My sponsers there in NY have all ready registered me for it, as a matter of fact, if you look really hard you may find a half marathon that may have qualified me:) I do more races a year than you will ever no. I don't need to compare myself to you as a marathoner. Like you have read I trotted a 52.4 miles at a 6:21 pace. I guess that is quite a trot huh? Please further your knowledge about Ultra Running before you make unresearched comments. I would love to see you trot through Death Valley with me in July. 135 miles, 120-130 degree temp. You challenge me for your marathon, I challenge you for my game. Only difference. I do marathons for fun at your pace. I would love to see you having fun in a 135 mile race. You talk about getting sick, after you have run 75 miles in a 130 degree temp, how do you think you are supposed to feel. But you won't find me telling you about that because that is how we live in the ultra world. We get sick and still have 3 marathons to go. I don't know when running became such a competition. I always thought a marathon was a huge accomplishment no matter how fast or slow you run it in. But, according to you, based on age, all people in my age group must run under a 3:29 to be considered anything in your book. I'm reading all of your 4 points you made. I'm reading about Paul Tergat and these are all great marathon runners, I commend them. I am a runner of all distances. I'm sorry I have never performed at a level that would qualify me for the NYC marathon, or have I? Go online and do more research before you assume. Start looking up half marathons. Like I said before, I'm having fun with you also. But you didn't answer my question about joining me 3 hours before the race to run to the start. Please don't take any of this wrong, you are having a good time. You just happened to find a person who has fun the same way. I hope we continue this for a while. But, you don't have to much to talk about you run half marathons and marathons. I run into a whole other relm. I can also throw in swimming, and ultra cycling, not to mention 3 special operations military schools. But please continue telling me about your marathons. Why don't you experience more than a marathon? Life has a lot more to offer than NYC. I love all the factuals about percentages and ages, give me more of those. I like to wrap myself up in the flag, It's what allows me to do the things I do. It's what allows YOU to do the things YOU do. Enjoy your marathon training through Harlem. Your the Man Harlem26.2. I'm off to do my marathon now.
I'm reading this and this must be some kind of joke. Cant you guys get along? Sir Lance, you ran the NY Marathon fast for an old guy...woopy doo. Who cares? That is your claim to fame? Marathons are no longer the standard for runners silly...that was the old standard...that's why 98% of the people that start marathons..finish them. It's too easy.
Sorry, I'm with Goggins on this one...based on his stats...you should tip your hat and move on.
David Goggins, it's an honor to now know who you are, thank you Lance. You are amazing!! and I appreciate that you are a strong, gorgeous black man that loves to run. One day I will cross over into your world, not at your level (maybe in my dreams :)) but one day I will take it to next level beyond the marathon. You are oustanding, keep it going, keep us going. Amazing....
Goggins is a hero among men. I will never again visit the site of this Harlem 26.2 hater.
You're a great example of what's wrong with Americans. Live and let live. Love what you do. But, don't criticize others for what they do. Ultras are as much about self-competition, as anything else. Obviously, you will never be a world-class marathoner. Don't you do it for personal reasons, as well?
Let's look at some figures. Approximately 1,839 people in the U.S. finished a 100 miler in 2007, myself included. How many finished a marathon? I don't know that figure exactly. But...conservatively...hundreds of thousands? The marathon is passe. C'mon, Katie Holmes and Oprah can do it! Ultras require much more than just running ability to go the distance. Chiefly, mental fortitude and a positve attitude. You certainly demonstrate a lack of the latter. It's a whole different sport. Either try it and know, or quit prosthletizing as if you are the one and only authority on running.
Step up to the line, man. You may have the best time for the first 26.2 miles. But, my guess is you will crash and burn shortly thereafter. Hell, you could even sign up for the Pike's Peak marathon. Although, the 8,000 elevation gain (ending at 14,000) could be a bit tricky for a New Yorker.
Come on! Step up, or shut up.
Quite frankly Harlem your not only not in the same league as David, you can't even see his level with a telescope.
as far as your 3:05 marathon at 44 years old, that's not really spectacular. Look at the 70+yo Canadian who has run 2:57, kinda makes your time pale doesn't it. Heck 10 years ago at age 43 I even ran 2:56 and I'm a nobody runner. As far as your original post stating that ultrarunners don't put in the milage that marathoners do in training. Take an example from my road race pr 50 miler I averaged 124.9 miles a week (peaking at 163 miles) at an average pace of 7:30 per mile including long runs of 38 miles going through the marathon in 3:10, and this was training.
You don't have a clue what it takes to run/race an ultra. I can still run your pr in the marathon at my age of 43. If you want to find out what kind of man you really are run with me at Barkley this weekend. That would be a laugh.
UltraJohn
2 corrections
1. my age is 53 not 43 sorry.
2. my average training pace was 7:03 not 7:30 , dyslectic I guess ;-)
UltraJohn
Lance,
If you keep this nonsensical ego driven blabbering up you wont have any readers. Give your readers some respect. This post and your comments make you look like a blabbering fool.
Please
Stick to the stuff you're good at. I'm embarrassed for you.
Wow, Mr. Goggins just poured you a glass of shut the fuck up. You best drink it up or accept his challenge.
Lancelot,
My question is why are you even bothering taking the time to pick a fight you cant win? You are so pro.
I'd put money on my pet hamster beating you in a 100 miler, mind you, hed be running in the wheel.
You need to learn how to 'run' more than just your mouth.
With a name like Lancelot you should be riding a horse in a Robin Hood movie.
Now go take David's challenge and enjoy being B-slapped.
lance you picked a fight with the wrong dude! and it's a shame that you go around starting fights especially with folks like david that commit them selves to doing good for others.
i met david at one of his NINE 100 mile races last year(and the 1st of three in september alone), i too was running. i droped out halfway through because i was still mentally and physically tired from another 100 mile race i had run 2 months earlier. david got second in that race and probably would've won if he hadn't ran another 100 mile race just 3 weeks earlier. that brings me to my point....
i'm certain david could run an age adjusted time that would be way faster than yours if that's what he wanted to do. i'm also certain he could make the 2008 top ten list for male ultrarunners if that's what he wanted to do. (last year he was ranked 18th see: www.ultrarunning.com/ultra/features/news/jurek-kimball-named-ultra-2.shtml )
but that might require him switching his racing schedule to a more conventional marathon or elite ultrarunning schedule where you only race or peak to race 2 or 3 times a year. but he'd rather run as many races he can so he can raise money for charity. why give someone a hard time or even joke about him when his running is done with such good intentions?
i hope you can learn something from all this
Lance,
I think you're in WAY over your head here. In fact, I think you're so far over your head here that I'm willing to put up my own money to prove it. You and David at NYC, I'd bet $1000 on David to kick your ass. Better yet--you and David at Badwater, I'd bet $5000 on David. Do you have $1000 for NYC, or $5000 for Badwater? If not, you'd best keep quiet and leave the real running to the real runners. I'll never be a real runner (only 3:01 for a marathon PR, long, long ago), but I can recognize them when I see them. You're not one of them.
>I'll never be a real runner (only 3:01 for a marathon PR, long, long ago), but I can recognize them when I see them. You're not one of them.
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Dave, I'm not even the man Goggins is out of running shoes - okay. I'm ending this blog soon after 1 year - but if you scan the year, nearly 400 entries - it's mostly about helping & being supportive to regular runners - it's all there, scan through it. That's who I am.
Everybody's entertained & amused - everybody learns some things - and I promise you I've introduced David Goggins to about 1,000 more people so far...and it's growing. Are you familiar with Athlinks.com? Great site - check out - the guy behind it checks in here every now and then - and I see today he's invited David Goggins and his charity to set up station, an on-line presence at Athlinks.com, which in my opinion would be great for David & Athlinks. David does not have an on-line presence....however with that - David's efforts will multiply ten-fold very quickly.
Life is funny sometimes. What started out or seemed like a random guy in NYC w/a blog talking junk about a real American hero might actually end up bringing rise to a new level of awareness and organization for the hero & his causes - David Goggins.
I'm not sure he knew there were runners in NYC checking him - but I keep an ear to the ground of the running scene everywhere on every level - have known about him for a long time and it's no mistake that I featured him...before I ended this blog. If David makes a home at Athlinks - I promise you they will feature his arrival on the homepage of the site and it's a win-win for everybody. Even if he does not....David's becoming a bit well known in NYC - I was running in Central Park this weekend, stopped, asked about my blog & Goggins...
Lance, I notice that in your reply to my comment you managed not to answer my challenge, but instead to say that by putting down a guy that's doing a lot of real good in the world you were actually HELPING him. That's a pretty weak response. So, are you on for either NYC or Badwater ($1000 or $5000 respectively?) Tell you what--if you win by beating David, I'm happy to pay you the money. If *I* win, I'll donate what I win from you to David's charity--nothing for me personally. So, are you ready to put your money where your mouth is? I can certainly afford it. BTW, if you want to find me, the easiest place is on the ULTRA listserv list (I'm one of the co-owners.)
>Lance, I notice that in your reply to my comment you managed not to answer my challenge,
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that's because I tried to gracefully defer to you your point - that's what i did, but you won't let it go, will you? david goggins has - yet you?...you're very affected by my blog i see - to the point where you're reaching in your wallet.
>but instead to say that by putting down a guy
dave, i've seen your blog & it's a real sleeper. are you a man of letters dave? a good story/read has an antagonist & a protagonist - it's a storyline, a narrative - you see it in Pro Wrestling all the time - people get wrapped into it - as you are now, you're clearly riveted - which means i'm pretty good, doesn't it?
ever been to a Black barbershop? ever play basketball with some Brothas? it's called talking trash dave - that's what we do from time to time - it's all good - me and goggins are cool, may even be good friends for a long time.
>So, are you on for either NYC or Badwater ($1000 or $5000 respectively?)
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I say yes and to Badwater. Okay Dave Combs, I accept your challenge, where do we go from here? Do I contact Al Arnold and tell him Dave Combs sent me? You're here challenging me to this race, I accept - now how do I get in this event you've challenged me in? You're the man, you have the contacts, right? I'm sure you would not be so total bullshit as to challenge me to a race you could not get me in, would you?
The only logical and rational reason you tossed that out and be authentic and genuine in doing so is that you also have a means to get me in the race - let's do it Dave Combs. Fees/Costs not a problem on my end, let's go. You can email me directly (digisend@gmail.com). Thanks! I'm looking forward to it.
You've said before you've never run an ultra and now you're pretending to jump into Badwater. You are ridiculous. Someone forwarded me a link to your blog and I can't believe what I'm reading. Groggins is so much better than you it's silly. But that's not even the point. Why do you insist on talking trash about other runners?
You have got to be the biggest joke that I've ever heard of. You can not be serious. You write nothing but shit on Goggins and now that he gave you a dose of reality you are acting like you are great friends. Please, give me a break. You can't believe that he would even slightly respect you after the stuff you said, Let alone think that you are good friends.HA HA HA. You basically put him down for being a soldier, a runner, and for doing good for others. And for you to even think that you could get to mile 10 of badwater shows me how dumb about this sport you really are. You really have no idea what goes into an ultra, not to mention badwater. Just because you watch someone do it on TV doesn't mean that you can do it. Gogggins should B**** slap you for saying some of the s*** that you said. I have heard some evil stories about this guys training. If you will ever take advice from someone, hear this....don't make a fool out of yourself any more than you allready have. It shows how much you don't no about Badwater to even think that someone of your caliber of running could even get excepted into that race. Didn't you do your research? You have to qualify DUMB ASS! That means running an ultra......HA
I am cracking up.... You can talk so much shit but the second someone proves you wrong, or you have to deal with peoples negative comments it's..... "I'm going to be ending the blog soon. This is one of my final entries."
You should have done your homework if you were going to talk shit on the craziest, hardest MF in the world! Goggins could eat you for lunch and then sit down for dessert. You think he's your freind? What a joke! You may have been "talking trash" back and forth but, he isn't stupid like you. He remembers every word you said about him before you knew he was reading this shit you posted.
I have had the privlige of training with Goggins before. Let me just tell you, any story you hear is no shit. The guy is harder than you will ever dream of being. You got yourself in a bind!
Harlem, you're a joke and I'm very embarrassed for you too. It's a shame that somebody showed me your post, which gives you more publicity (even though it's bad publicity). Shame on you for talking shit about a navy seal / fellow runner, and then trying to back yourself up saying you're doing him a favor. Try stepping down off your high-horse and run some ultra's beside this guy rather than putting him down. Groggin's should kick you're ass, but luckily for you, he's better than that... Grow up man!
What a pussy! I can't believe you would actually act like you just happened to be coming up on your year when you are getting all this heat for your ignorant comments. I am glad Goggins is a bigger man than you! He let you off pretty easy if you ask me. I would have loved to see him throw more truth your way! You need it! What a F****** Pussy!
Dude Lance, you seriously need to get over yourself. You think David Goggins gives a sh*t that you introduced him to a few more measly readers? I assure you he doesn't want your audience and I feel bad that he actually had to take the time out to respond to your ignorant and unfounded criticisms about his times and or that he runs ultras.
I saw David zoom by me in LA and although I am much slower than he is, for half a mile he made me pick up my pace to his level just so I catch up to the guy to thank him for his inspirational runs.
He inspires and raises money through his actions. He doesn't need to talk to gain attention. That to me, is a REAL man.
Keep on doing what you do David. Stop listening to the haters.
Lance...you proved yourself to be a total douche! Enough said.
Lance-
David would wipe you up like a dirty floor dude. You pick the race, let him know. He will destroy you.
David, take him into the bowels of Mc Naughton Trail Ultra and see how tough he actually claims to be.
http://www.mcnaughtonparktrailruns.com/index2.htm
Lance, get a life dude. Use your energy to do something productive.
David-
Dont give this freak any more attention. You and we know what you are about. I know this guy is pissing you off (and us too) just know you could kill him in a second right in front of his harlem friends. Everyone likes to be bold typing. Man, just leave it, and keep running and keep doing what you do, and be the role model that others see in you.
Honor God, honor country, honor your teamates and your family...everything else will take care of itself, and this will too
We're with you,
Little Creek Virginia Beach
VIRGINIA
Sorry to interrupt your black panther party about blacks helping blacks. Honestly you guys are so racist, I would love to open a site where whites can help whites... Oh wait i can't that would be racist b/c im white. Bottom line Goggins is a hero, you lance are a turd. I mean it is like if you were challenging lance armstrong to a 1/2 mile bike sprint that you trained your whole life for, and then talking shit b/c your sprint was faster than his warmup.
Lance...give it up. You wouldn't last 5 minutes in David Goggin's world.
Goggins is THE MAN!!!
He should be one of People's Sexiest Men!
If they only made more like him!!!
I recently just came back from running the 2008 NYC marathon.. And i believe mr. goggins or GOOGINS according to the results page ran 2:59. sick time man.
Wow, "Lance." You have the IQ of a dead pigeon. While you're typing at your desk, trying to start shit with a hero, he's fucking running. Get off your online fame hype and stop sucking your own dick. Goggins Pisses as far as you run. Seriously consider suicide.
I calculated out David Goggins time once age graded per the WAVA tables. David ran at 69+% level, as a 34 year old in '08. Lance ran at a 71+% level as 44 year old in '07.
David Goggins as a 34 year old did not perform at Lance's level as a 44 year old on the same course. This is indisputable and clear.
All New York Road Runner races score and grade runners enabling comparisons of performance between people aged 24, 35, 44, 54, 64, etc. David's a great runner however until he can break 70% AG% rating, he's a basic weekend warrior.
lance is a bitch goggins is the shit. lance wouldnt last 1 hour in hellweek
Ahhhhh I think someone has a man crush on Goggins! Either that, or he has some inadequacy issues.
Punk.
Goggins is the real deal.
Cheers brother. Good on you and your charities. Happy Memorial day!
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